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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.16 14:54:00 -
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This guy did the auto pilot to the system he perished in. I was there to gank a specific hauler, but after watching him sit there and do nothing for over an hour I got a few friends to fly Amarr, buid ships and fly them out to the site.
So.... this guy could have evaded the loss by simply warping away at any time in the hour it took me to get irritated at his ship just sitting there, or simply warping away in the half hour it took to convince my buds to come pop him, or simply warping away during the 45 min of travel/build time to get the involved ships in place. Those are series times, so assuming he landed just a split second before me he had over 2 hours to do ANYTHING. Had he not taunted me with his afk for over an hour I wouldn't have noticed him.
Who is to blame for this?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21412391
There was a similarly fit (isk wise) CNR right next to him, but my wife calling me to bed (I get up early for work) was more appealing than doing a lap to amarr to get more BC. We could have doubled down on this guy but our 'lazy' won out over his 'lazy'
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:44:00 -
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You need to add Dark Renegade to your list. He's not only an awoxer and thief - he also ganks mission runners. He doesn't do the actual ganking, he's more of an idea man. If he's in your mission hub - flashy red is sure to follow. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:50:00 -
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The real problem. This isn't WOW - you actually lose stuffs. In other MMO you just collect more and more and nothing gets taken away. So the logic is that it is OK to dress your wizard in clothes worth bazillions of ducats (whatever currency wizards use - I'm an eve only gal, so not sure). In eve you can actually lose stuffs. Bazillion ducat wizard outfit - ok (no risk). 3 billions isk vargur fit - not ok (you could/will lose all that bling).
It's a simple misconception that you can play eve in WOW mode (I just picked this one - could be any of the other MMO). To be fair you can, it's just that your bling wizard gear (pith A invul) will be lost if you're not careful.
The fix is easy little wizards. Be careful (scout and blah blah blah) OR dress appropriately (T2 invul). If you want to play like a wizard then I suggest you log into a game that has them. If you want to play eve in a vargur, then learn to deal with how the game works. The game isn't broken you're just not accepting it as it is.
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.11 15:19:00 -
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Another problem is thinking you'll be happy running the same NPC missions over and over. You run them over and over and feel good about it. That's great. Then you look over on the left and you notice that a side effect is a big fat wallet. You don't have any PVP losses to drop the isk lake down to an acceptable level. So you fill your hangar w/ faction and T2 BS.
That only keeps the wallet reasonable for a little while, then it just grows out of hand again. What to spend it on?? BLING!! Of course! I'll fill my module slots with pith A and core X stuff. You really have no other choice - you'll simply drown in isk if you don't do something. Then you have this hangar full of multi-billion isk ships. No one can see them in there.... maybe just undock and run one mission. Yeah, it's not like anything bad will happen. Aaaaaaand then one day it finally does.
Here's some big picture conceptual stuff for some of you guys to ponder. Eve is a PVP game. It's not a game where you can PVP, it's a game based on PVP. PVE is great - it gets you skills and understanding of mechanics, gives you isk and gives you opportunities. Eve PVE is a means to the end - the end is PVP. There is nothing broken here. The mechanics aren't bad. It's a PVP game and if you try to make it a PVE game.... it will never quite fit right. It just won't.
That being said - it's an awesome game and PVP is awesome. I've said it in other threads. The bonds you make w/ other players in PVP are much stronger then anything that you can achieve in PVE. "Woot, we took that belt down!" is satisfying, but will never match the feeling of winning a PVP skirmish you probably should have lost. PVE you complete a script that can be found via google. PVP - you beat something based on your skill, wits - no script, no AI - you took the other players down! THAT just feels better.
If you hate PVP then you hate eve. If you hate PVP you just haven't been exposed to it properly. I've had three gank attempts (by me) recently fail. I'll bet those 3 bling pilots felt freaking awesome as they warped away amidst my shattered gank squad. If you give in to PVP you can feel that quite often. All that being said, if any of you PVE wizards (and I'm saying that with humor, not animosity) want to try out PVP - my door is open. You can fleet up and we'll go have some fun. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:56:00 -
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True, but this thread is about mission boats and pvp.
Related to your comment.... pineapples have pointy spines and should be handled with care. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:14:00 -
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He's talking about a pimp mission BS jumping into Apanake and getting whacked. There really isn't a way to avoid that engagement. You may survive it, but you won't avoid it.
Please read the thread for comprehension.
It will keep me from picturing you with big floppy shoes and a red honk honk nose. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:08:00 -
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Technically I can agree with that, but at the end of the day I don't see many folks refitting their ship twice to go 1 jump, run a mission and return. There are reasonable precautions and then there are others. Although w/ the mobile depots you do have a point. It would be pretty easy to refit. Bad news is we use nagas w/ t2 scrams to prevent mjd and the tornados have points, so you would have a total of six points on you until concord narrows us down. Depending on the guys it could be more points. Nagas get scrams and tornados get disruptors.
Putting T2 invul fields instead of pity A gear is probably the most reasonable. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.15 13:51:00 -
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"Mommy, why can guns be fitted to every ship but one in the game?"
"It's a pvp game son. The purpose of logging in is to blow up other space ships."
"But mommy, does that mean players can actually lose things in this game?"
"Yes son, they do. It's the only game like it in the world. It's what makes eve special, unique and different"
"Wouldn't it be better if no one ever lost anything?"
"No son, that's what all the other dime a dozen game are for. Eve is unique and the players should understand that when the log in"
"Understand what mommy??"
"Eve is a pvp game son. It's geared to blowing each other up. It's unique. It's what keeps its fan base playing the game for many years. While the other theme park MMOs fourish rise and fall - eve keeps going. That PVP is the life blood that sustains it. If eve were to change, then it too would fall like all the others."
"So... ganking a marauder in high sec.... that is what keeps eve alive?"
"No son, the epic free form struggle for survival keeps eve alive son, ganking a mission boat in apanake is just one small cog in a giant beautifle machine."
"I love you mommy"
"I love you to son" |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:01:00 -
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market pvp is boring. yeah you're pitting your isk pile against some other dudes isk pile, but is it really pvp? i've done some market shinanigans over the years. it doesn't compare to actual space ship vs space ship combat between players.
if you think being a jita trade king makes you a pvp boss - you're just (put something deragotory here). you get about as much adrenaline rush out of a good trade as you do out of popping a veldspar in amarr.
NOT THE SAME. STOP TRYING TO PRETEND IT IS
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:50:00 -
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You're what I would call a poser. You act like you pvp, but you don't. You buy and sell stuff. Are you better than other folks and buying and selling stuff?? Most people in this forum could give a rat's a55. Really, go to the market section of the forum - you'll be on topic an people will like you there.
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:53:00 -
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By your logic the average trade nets a player 20 bil and the average pvp encounter is wandering alone in low sec.
I see you clearly now. You have big floppy shoes and a honk honk nose.
Please don't get mad and out trade me. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.17 13:08:00 -
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I'll agree there is such a thing as market pvp when you can point my wallet and force me to out buy/sell you. Until then you are wrong. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:59:00 -
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I can't believe this thread is still going. Can't you mouth breathing sociopath gankers find an interesting way to play the game. Besides the immorallity of ganking - it's just easy mode crap. Grow up, get a life and make something of yourselves. |
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Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:28:00 -
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They only have to read the thread to see the truth of it. You sir have now accrued 2.45 demerits for fun spoilage.
Side not (sorry to the OP - the sensless slaughter must end) are you actually in your corps wh or just part of a corp that has a wh? |
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